The Canbarry Times
For all your information ...
well, some of it.
If you're on this site you must like Australian Music History, & if you do you will want to add this mighty good read by Ian D. Marks & Iain McIntyre. Featuring a few pages on our very own Bitter Lemons.
& good luck with the book.
New Guard now have their own page.
I will try to answer some emails soon. I do appreciate all your input, but since I've had to sack all my staff, I'm still doing this by myself, so hang in there.
I have also loaded some Itchy Feet & a long lost Murrumbidgee Orchestra video onto
I'll see what other gems I can find ... but that's another time.
be seeing you
As Jimi said "it has been a long time, hasn't it"
I was going to give up the website as I have been doing it for a long time. I started researching in 1992 & put it on the web 1999. But after speaking to a few pals & other assorted types, I have decided to keep it going for a bit longer.
I had a few computer issues but all is well now. I've been getting into video stuff & have loaded quite a bit up on you tube. Not much Canberra stuff but if you want to have a look ...
Be seeing you,
Alan Cook sitting on the right
It seems that as you get older you only keep in touch with pals when you have sad news to pass on or it's someone's birthday.
It's sad news I'm afraid.
After a long illness our pal Alan Cook has passed away peacefully in his sleep on Wednesday 12th April.
Alan played keyboards with The Ritz as well as DV8 & The Heroes from Newcastle.
I'll tell you this, there must be a mighty band up there, but a real killer down there!
Say hello to Monica & Willie for me Cookie ... Voodoo Child is in E!
I'll send the Coloursound on to you later.
I received this mail from Rohan Lilley & after consulting with my legal team I'm going to agree to let them include the site on Pandora.
I'll keep this site going for one more year so if you want anything included you'll have a bit of time to organise photos/stories etc.
After that no updates will be done as Pandora doesn't do updates, but it keeps the site forever or even longer.
The next bill for the web site comes in about July, so it will close about July 2011.
Be seeing you,
Dear Mr. Barry
The National Film and Sound Archive aims to build a comprehensive collection representing all aspects of Australia’s film, television, sound and related industries to ensure that Australians have access to this part of their cultural heritage now and in the future. The National Film and Sound Archive traditionally collects items in physical formats, but it is also committed to preserving electronic publications of lasting cultural value.
PANDORA, Australia’s Web Archive, was set up by the National Library of Australia in 1996 to enable the archiving and provision of long-term access to online Australian publications (including those dealing with our audio-visual industries). The National Film and Sound Archive is one of a number of partners associated with the National Library in this project. Additional information about PANDORA can be found on the Library's server at: http://pandora.nla.gov.au/index.html
We would like to include Canberra Musicians Index Pagein the PANDORA Archive and I would be grateful if you would let me know whether you are willing to permit us to do so by granting us a licence under the Copyright Act 1968 to copy your website into the National Film and Sound Archive and to provide public online access to it via the Internet. This means that you would grant the National Film and Sound Archive and National Library permission to retain your publication in the National Film and Sound Archive and to provide public access to it in perpetuity. We assume that in granting permission all contributors to your publication are informed and in agreement that their work will be archived in PANDORA. If you are not the person with authority to give permission, could you please advise us who is.
[For serials and integrating titles: We would like to re-archive your publication periodically to record significant additions and changes.]
If you are willing to grant us such a licence, I would be grateful if you could complete the short form at the end of this message and return it to me.
There are some benefits to you as a publisher in having your website archived in this way. If you grant us a copyright licence, The National Film and Sound Archive (through the National Library) will take the necessary preservation action to keep your publication accessible as hardware and software changes over time. The National Library will catalogue your publication onto the National Bibliographic Database (a database of catalogue records shared by over 1,100 Australian libraries). This will increase awareness of your site among researchers using either catalogue.
In the event that I cannot archive your online publication due to technical difficulties with emergent technologies, may I ask that you provide me with the publication on CD-R so that it may be ingested.
If you have any queries please do not hesitate to contact me.
PANDORA Agency Administrator
Electronic and Digital Archivist
Sound, Broadcast and New Media Branch
National Film and Sound Archive
McCoy Circuit, Acton Canberra ACT 2601
GPO BOX 2002 Canberra ACT 2601 Australia
As Jimi once said "It has been a long time"
Not a lot going on when it comes to The Canberra Musicians web site.
Not a lot of material left I guess. Still get the odd message, but that's about it.
I have also changed computers & going back to this old soldier is a task & a half. I got this one in 2000 & I only use it for the web site (I do it on Front Page & Yahoo doesn't recognise Apple iweb) so I'm stuck.
Anyway, I have tried to pass this site onto a few people, but alas no one seems that interested, which is a shame. I contacted some Gov. Dept's but one wanted to split it up into photos & one didn't bother getting back. I have tried to get a little write up in a local paper on their art page but noway.
The next website bill is due soon, I'll probably keep it going ... if I do, I'll just leave it up on the web, but have little or no imput/output.
Hey Willie Boy, always in my thoughts. Don't seem like 5 years.
I've loaded some videos onto Carson, Pat Cash's Headband, The Ritz, The Willie Winter Band, Hot Air Band & Daddy Cool pages, more to come soonish.
I have moved the site over to it's own domain. If you find any broken links or missing photos please let me know.
I have just finished loading up many snaps that I received from Andrea Young. She has sent some great photos including the first photos of Quasar. So far there's new snaps of Quasar, Kingston Kats (not sure of the spelling of Kats?) Live Evil & Medusa who were an early version of Hot Air Band. I cooked dinner for Broc O'Connor, Peter Marshall & his girlfriend Pauline last night & talked about the olden type daze in Canberra. I still have a lot of Andrea's snaps to load up but I'm running out of webspace so I'll have to get some more ... but not today. I saw Tony Joe White last week in this shitty little bar in Belgrave & it was mighty. It was like the Boot & Flogger (a little bit bigger) no seats & a sticky floor. Just like the old days. TJW was great, his voice is so deep he must have such large tonsils! His guitar playing was perfect, a wah wah & a coloursound pedal & an amp. Way to go Tony Joe! He's 66 by the way.
Also saw The WHO & Jeff Beck. What can I say? Both brilliant. The WHO are up there with Jethro Tull as the best gig I've seen. Jeff Beck, the Master of the Strat, & that's that!
As Richard Hauser said afterwards
"If they dropped a bomb on the Palais tonight, they would probably wipe out 3/4 of Melbourne's guitarists!"
I have also added Dave Kain's GTK interview from 1971 to his myspace site. The ABC have loaded lots of GTK stuff onto youtube & I found 3 Carson tracks with Ian Winter, Dave Kain interview & an interview with Bakery with Rex Bullen. Good to see & hear the boys again.
Oh yeh, the Canberra Musicians myspace site now has 10 new tracks up & Peter Coleman's grooolsound page has lots of Canberra music that he recorded at grooolsound & CTC 7, so give him a listen.
myspace sites can be found
See ya later crocodiles
Well as you can see I'm still here. It's really mighty to be able to look at mountains & see clouds & not clouds of smoke. We stayed for 3 weeks but when they told us that the winds might reach 120-50kph & that the choppers might not be able to fly & they might pull some of the fire-fighters back, we decided to leave. Thank goodness the fires never made it to Warburton.
I'd like to thank those who sent messages to us & they meant a lot. It was one of those situations when it would have been so good to have your dad around to get advice from.
I have put a couple of photos of Willie playing with Mondo Rock in 1977 & playing an Ovation Breadwinner guitar? or maybe an Ovation Deacon?
Have a look & I'll try to catch up soon.
Birthday Pat Italiano
Happy Birthday Dave Kain
Happy Birthday Scotty Ingram
Well, I don't know what's going on with Dave Scotland & my song 'The Whole World's Goin' Crazy.
Last week is was 1142 & this week it has zoomed back up to number 257! I wish we were getting some dosh for it! I wish Neil Young would record it! I might mail him next year or perhaps pop down to the Myer Music Bowl & front him personally. I have done his songs, so it's only polite of him to do one of mine!
So this is Christmas, & what have you done? Another year older, a new one just begun ...
So, what have you done? I have been busy with the site & myspace pages.
Talk about multi talented!
I'm only gagging.
It's been a great year for me, I've spoken to loads of people, reunited a few, pissed off a couple & made some new chums.
To all who have contributed to the site this year, a big THANK YOU, to all who have visited, Cheers.
I would still like some more stories about bands & venues before we all forget!
Hope you have a safe & happy Christmas everybody
& have a mighty New Year
Mike Hamer & Nic Ward sent me some photos & words & you can find them on The Limazine page.
Not a Canberra Band, but contains Canberra Musicians.
I hope you all have a wonderful Christmas & a healthy New Year.
Thanks for the support during 2008 & for visiting all the sites.
Loaded a couple of snaps onto the Steve Grieve page for your enjoyment.
Happy Birthday Willie
Well I'm writing over
the midnight hour to send you some wishes for the 6th...not to upset you, but to
let you know that I am missing being able to say "happy birthday" to
Willie as we have over so many years, and i know you must be missing being able
to do that still so very much tonight. we have got cause to celebrate with the
victory in the States, yes. I just wanted to tell you that both Todd and I are
thinking of you. not a year goes past we don't remember Willie's birthday. all
the cards sent back and forth, all the phone calls and good wishes exchanged on
this date for so many years. Willie once told from Christmas St. he kept all the
cards and letters near and dear to his heart over the years he kept put away in
a special box and he never lost any of them. yours were in it and so were ours.
we may not have hung out together in Sydney Baz, but Willie spoke of you so
often that I felt I knew you anyway. he told me before a visit down there
(around his birthday & you & he did a gig and some mates showed up with
a gift for him?) in the late 90's that when he went down to Canberra he forgot
all about Melbourne. he was home with his closest friends then. so I'm very
grateful that we are all able to stay in contact, particularly on days like
today. he would want that very much and he wouldn't want you to be sad. he would
want you to know that he's still around us and knows we haven't forgotten today's
date at all. and that you are hanging in there for him, as his dearest mate.
this year and next I'm determined to keep an eye on the Nighthawk for Willie.
give it my best shot. it may take some time but its something I know Willie
would want to be with you or at least keep a check on what happens to it for him
if I cant find a way to get it yet. we only lost touch up here because of Nin
about 2 year before he left us. anyway its the least I can do for Willie now.
except send you Todd's and my best wishes and love for the 6th. I hope you don't
mind me writing tonight, Baz. I just felt Willie would want me to check in with
you and I always feel he's smiling down on us whenever we contact each other.
all the best for today. "Fuzzy Guitar" is going on my page now. your
beautiful tribute for Willie. thanks, Barry.
with love Marianne and Todd xox
Loaded a photo onto Phalanx's page & tidied up a few pages.
Watch the thief scurrying to find the new photo!
Hey thief, some people can do their own research, some can't ... you're a can't
Happy Birthday Broc O'Connor
Happy Birthday Steve Maughan
I sometimes get some silly emails from tired and emotional old musos.
Here's a classic from David Studdert of Tactics:
I've got no problem with the concept or the effort you've clearly put in -
however you seem to have a very extensive collection of what personally I regard
as pretty second rate musos and have nothing at all on really interesting musios
from the 80's - is this because you haven't asked or have simply forgotten -
there's us and young doctors to name two and lots of others who were doing as
much to further canberra music as the battery of cats you have here - most of
whom in my experience spent their entire time playing turgid version of route 66
long into the 1980's at the canberra uni bar.
Please for your own cred address this problem
If you want some photos from us ask us -
incidentally the picture of steeve kilby was almost worth signing up for
and one further question do you known the whereabouts of steve maugham who produced our first few records and who i'd like to send a copy of the recent double compliation album to?
Incidentally, how many of these bands have had a compilation of their stuff ( 84 songs in all) re-released 25 years after they first played?
Don't get me wrong, I've got nothing against Tactics, an 80s band from Canberra who had the guts to play their own songs and ambition enough to get them recorded (like quite a few other musicians from the local scene).
And I guess the other members of the band - if they read this post - are cringing about the hilariously patronizing attitude of the author, a guy not exactly noted for exceptional talent, unlike a number of the people currently featured on the myspace page.
I will point out two things:
1. None of the people on the page were "playing turgid versions of Route 66 at the Canberra Uni Bar long into the 80s" while you were creating your deathless masterpieces.
2. If I need some "cred" tips, dude, you're the last person I'd ask.
Now, if you, or any other local musician would like some photos or mp3s put on the site, all you have to do is ask and I'll happily oblige. Believe it or not, I don't have the time to chase all the musical giants of Canberra's yesteryear for material.
But exactly why, portly middle-aged guy, do your musical endeavours a quarter of a century ago entitle you to act like a princess? Just asking."
All the best David
Well boys and girls, this email from Antoinette has made my day, all the hard work from me and all the contributors to the site has finally been rewarded.
Congratulations to all concerned and thanks for your input and support during the last 7 years.
ACT Heritage Library
Monday, 30 October 2006
Subject: RE: Canberra musicians
Dear Mr McCulloch
Many thanks for the information on our images. I have updated the records
The ACT Heritage Library is happy to grant permission for use of these
images on your website. The images may only be used for the purposes
illustration on your website site and may not be transmitted, transferred
or sold to any other party.
These images are all from the Canberra Times. The source should be noted
as "Courtesy ACT Heritage Library, Canberra Times Collection".
If there are other images on our database that you wish to use please let
us know. An email quoting the reference number will be enough for us to
check if they are available for use.
I also seek your permission to link to your site from our local history page
ACT Heritage Library
Subject: Copyright of Limit Five images.
Mon, 27 Sep 2004
The first five images that you have of The Limit Five are actually my photographs.
You attribute them to John Hovell but they are actually the copyright of DAVID REID - Photographer.
I was the Manager of The Limit Five from it's inception till 1966 and was the person who got the name up and running and got the band it's first paying job and maintained that situation for quite a few years.
I would appreciate the recognition of the copyright and even managerial status or else an extremely large fee for the breaking of copyright - LMAO.
Fri, 1 Oct 2004
I get a few letters like this. Sometimes they're serious, sometimes not.
As most of you know,
this site earns no income, I pay to keep the site up, I use my own computer and
the work I do to maintain this site is unpaid work. That's been the situation
since 1991. I rely upon the generosity of friends and other musicians who send
me information, advice and their personal collections of photos.
Whenever I can, I credit the person who has provided a photograph to me, ( if no credit, they are probably from my own collection) but I don't have the time or the resources to investigate who took each photo or to find out who, as a matter of law, owns the copyright in each photo.
Many of them were
taken decades ago. If you have copyright in a photo used on the site, and you
really think that it's important that your copyright is mentioned, then let me
Preferably, without being overbearing about it and preferably without silly comments about breach of copyright.
I'm always willing to correct the information on the site. But bear in mind, nobody is making any money out of the use of copyrighted photographs here. I'm just not willing to get into debates about copyright on a non-profit site. If there is a problem, I simply remove the photographs.
Some musicians have unrealistic ideas about the commercial value of old photos and recordings. I was surprised last year when I was attempting to put together the book about Canberra musicians with accompanying CD's to find that some of the musicians mentioned or recorded didn't realize that the project would not involve any profit or royalties.
They wanted guarantees that they would share in profits. The real costs of that project, excluding the hundreds of hours I've spent collecting and organizing band information and photos since 1991, were going to be far higher than any possible income from sales.
So keep those photos and stories coming in, but please don't get carried away with legal issues and (non-existent) income-earning opportunities."
Who wants to know about band managers? It's a musicians site.
Next thing, all the Roadies will want to have a credit on the band pages!
Barry the Backward Roadie.
Hoc nomen meum verum non est